City Council Tables Request For Budget Commission
Members decide to wait for General Assembly's decision on supplemental tax.
Councilman Dan Gendron announced a change of heart Monday night, moving that the Woonsocket City Council table the proposal that they ask for a budget commission.
Most of the rest of the council voted to put the request on a back burner. The only holdout was Councilman Albert Brien. He was in favor of a vote on the issue, he said, but only so he could vote 'No'. "I am against a budget commission at any time," Brien said.
Gendron and the other members of the council were not as fervent in their reluctance to ask for state intervention, but most were wary of asking for the state to step in if it wasn't as a last resort.
"We do not have the option of asking them to leave," Gendron said, and a budget commission could end up running the city's finances for up to five years. He said the General Assembly seemed to have warmed to the idea of the supplemental tax, so asking for a budget commission when they might not need it would be rash.
Council President John Ward said having a budget commission request in place could provide a little extra security for members of the General Assembly who are wary of supporting the legislation authorizing the city to issue supplemental tax bills, raising $6.6 million to aid the financially strapped city. He said the city could ask the state for a budget commission with some confidence that it wouldn't be imposed on them needlessly, since they were already working closely with the Department of Revenue.
The vote on the bill (2012-S 2872A), is scheduled today at 3 p.m. in Room 35 on the basement level of the State House.
Ward said he was prepared to vote for the commission Monday, but he understood his fellow councilmen's interest in waiting until the Finance Committee Vote and General Assembly vote on the supplemental tax bill.
Councilman Christopher Beauchamp said there was still a chance that the General Assembly could approve the legislation. "I think we've got to give them that opportunity," he said.
Earlier in the meeting, Ward noted the reason the Council would be asking for a budget commission, and not asking to go straight to a recievership, is that the law governing state intervention only allows a budget commission to ask for a reciever. "So while I appreciate the suggestion that we simply jump to reciever, the proper reading of the law will show that that's simply not something we have in our options," Ward said.
Ward also asked Finance Director Thomas Bruce about the School Department's draft budget. Bruce said the schools budget currently stands at just over $70 million.
Ward noted there were two proposed ammendments to the supplemental tax bill. The first is to create a legislative commission to study the cause of the School Department's deficit. "I think the cause is simple," Ward said. He said the school business manager didn't have the proper information because she didn't have the staff supporting her and lacked the knowledge to prepare a budget properly, combined with a superintendent who was willing to let them prepare a budget that was not meaningful. "I don't know who you would want to punish," Ward said, since most of the people responsible aren't working with the city anymore.
A second proposed ammendment to the supplemental tax bill would reverse the tax hike within three years. That would compromise part of the goal of the tax, Ward said, which was to allow them to meet their Other Post Employment Benefits (OPEB) and pension liability.
Ward said both ammendments would only delay the city's ability to raise the extra funds it needs to keep running."I can't even begin to fathom the first piece of logic about it and I hope it never sees the light of day," Ward said.
Doctor
7:52 am on Tuesday, May 22, 2012
What happend to our city clerk, Andea, Pauline was sitting up there instead?
DonQ
7:54 am on Tuesday, May 22, 2012
These losers just cannot do what is right for the City of Woonsocket, and more important, what is right for the taxpayers. Once again they have proven that they are a band of incompetents. It is time for a revolution in this city. We need to storm City Hall and throw these bums out into the street. They have yet to do one good thing to try and save this city.
DonQ
8:04 am on Tuesday, May 22, 2012
Ward needs to be the first person to be run out of the city. Once again he is doing his end run to avoid any investigation to possible wrong doing by the WED and the School Committee. A again Ward, you are showing that you are an idiot. If there was any criminal wrong doing by the WED or School Committee members, it doesn't matter if they are still working for the city or not - they can still be prosecuted. Ward has continuously blocked any effort that would allow the taxpayers an opportunity to see exactly where the problem originated. Who is John Ward trying to protect? Definitely not the taxpayers.
DonQ
11:05 am on Tuesday, May 22, 2012
{Thinking aloud to myself}: If John Ward had a client who suddenly had millions of dollars unaccounted for - would his attitude toward that client be the same as he has shown to the taxpayers of Woonsocket. I.E. - Would he tell his client to just forget about the unaccounted for money and move on. Would he tell his client not to investigate the missing money because any employee(s) who might be responsible for the situation are no longer working for the company. Does he have a different set of accounting standards for the taxpayers who elected him as opposed to clients who are paying him for his services?
English first
8:51 am on Tuesday, May 22, 2012
Don Q, and dead in the water, come out of your closet and run for office. I see that you have all the answers. This situation in Woonsocket is just the beginning. Each city and town in the surrounding areas will have similar problems because the unemployment rate does not budge in RI. I will be the first to admit that this financial mess is too complicated for me. But I do know one thing. The people in office today are just the victims of years and years of incompetence in city, town and state governments. It didn't just happen with this generation of elected officials. Have a wonderful day.
DonQ
9:06 am on Tuesday, May 22, 2012
dead in the water,
Please hope that English first doesn't run for office. If he/she had his/her way, we would invite even more welfare cases and illegal immigrants into the city. He/she already feels that we don't have enough section 8 housing in the city. He/she has also demonstrated a belief that we don't have enough non tax paying residents in the city.
Memere
3:33 pm on Tuesday, May 22, 2012
I beg to differ, English First, because Mr. Ward and Mr. Fontaine have been in city politics in one capacity or another for years and so are partly responsible for this mess. But, then again, hindsight is always better than foresight.
Rob
11:06 am on Tuesday, May 22, 2012
I agree with english don and dead in the water put your names in, I've already said in considering running for school committee
English first
11:43 am on Tuesday, May 22, 2012
I could never run for office for 100 reasons. One reason is I don't understand all the financial problems. I admit it. But I try not to make blanket statements about the poor,needy, unemployed or underemployed. I am not a bleeding heart. I just do not lump everyone who disagree with me into one group. I usually don't revert to calling people "nuts, losers, incompetents and simpletons". If I do name call I usually regret it. Do you?
DonQ
11:59 am on Tuesday, May 22, 2012
English first,
You refuse to recognize that there are many in the City of Woonsocket, the State of Rhode Island, and the United States of America who have chosen to be poor/needy. For the most part, they are 1) here illegally and should not be getting any taxpayer assistance in any shape or form. 2) "Career" Welfare recipients - they have absolutely no desire to better themself or their family members - unfortunately their family members frequently grow up to be "career" welfare recipients. 3) Those who are too lazy to go out and find gainful employment. Woonsocket has become a haven for these three categories because our city officials refuse to go to the state reps and say enough is enough. We just keep taking them in and getting poorer and poorer. I am more than willing to help those who are going through rough times in their lives, but are doing what they can to get themselves and their family back on track.
DonQ
4:13 pm on Tuesday, May 22, 2012
Hopefully (fingers crossed) I can win one of the multi million dollar lottery prizes. I would love nothing more than to abandon my property and get the hell out of this hell hole city and state.